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Blast Off on another epic episode of

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hero paranormal podcast the hyper

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anomalous esoteric research organization

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podcast Broadcasting

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from just south of the old Sherman Ranch

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my name is Ryan

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the anomalous ambassador of the airwaves

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bringing you an epic episode today on

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today's episode we have none other than

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the amazing Dr true Ott you may know him

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from a variety of past podcasts both

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mine and others he is also behind the

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podcast that is known as the story

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behind the story

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Dr truwat is an amazing Utah researcher

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who is so knowledgeable about everything

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including the occult treasure hunting

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the Paranormal in search of just about

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anything that might be mysterious in

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Utah Dr truatt is just about an expert

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on all of it he's also involved with

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moment he has been researching and

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so without further Ado let's get him on

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here and we're going to delve into some

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very strange

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strange but true Tales

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of Uinta Basin High strangeness

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this took place at

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spacewolfresearch.com which is a base

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camp for research located just south of

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the old Sherman ranch we're going to get

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into all the weird things

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Dr true Ott welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast well my pleasure Ryan

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that's always good to hear your voice

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these crazy anomalies happening this

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seems like more and more huh it really

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does there's been there's been so much

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strange just connecting with you today

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has been quite the Endeavor uh quite

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difficult

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so um yeah it's been interesting I know

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that you've been up to a lot as well in

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the introduction I I told the listeners

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about me minerals.com and Mother Earth

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minerals and and how I uh

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I I was uh also a I guess subscriber or

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uh have purchased some of that stuff in

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search of health and happiness and how

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great it is I don't know where we should

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uh kick off we have a lot to talk about

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should we start with what's what

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happened in the Basin I thought this was

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quite interesting and this was a while

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surely yeah

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I'd work that direction you would like

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to go Ryan we'll we'll make it happen

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so I as usual I had an event take place

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at space Wolf research which is a base

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camp up in the uina Basin just south of

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the old Sherman Ranch and I uh I gave

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you a call and I believe Mr Ryan Layton

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as well I wanted to bounce some stuff

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off off of you guys as I usually do and

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you very uh quickly and

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very versatility came up to the Basin to

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investigate the situation as well as Mr

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Layton and a third individual

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and I guess what we found was very

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interesting I had a caretaker at the

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property who

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who had an event where he saw something

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akin to three werewolves jump over the

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fence

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he was with a friend of his uh smoking

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on the porch there at the uh

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caretakers quarters and they yelled out

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some things to these trespassers they

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the trespassers did not react as if they

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very human and in fact playfully started

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messing with a bunch of camera equipment

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and Technologies of various sorts and so

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he went inside grabbed his weapon as his

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buddy had a weapon in his vehicle and

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they started walking down the road

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towards these these three entities I

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guess I should call them because

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that that's where we're starting and um

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and well and

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and you had a chance to uh

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to investigate the situation and also

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talk to the caretaker what was your

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it was uh uh Mr Layton

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called me and as he's apt to do you know

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he uses uh military type of metaphors

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code red code red out of Skinwalker we

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need your help okay

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what's uh what's up I believe we got

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there actually before you did you

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arrived on site that we were you know we

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were I guess we're closer from where you

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got to drive up from from Southern

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but anyway we got there and uh

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interviewed your caretaker the young man

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shall we say didn't sleep much the night

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before he was he was spooked and so I

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went into detective mode with him I I

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had him it's always good to have people

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repeat their story at least twice

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preferably three times

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and see if it varies any you know

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uh he was excited yes he was agitated

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yes but the story was the same and he

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proceeded we I asked him to reenact

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exactly what happened and and he did

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exactly what you just described he he

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explained what happened he saw this

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this uh in the lights there these these

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I they didn't say they were people he

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wouldn't have shot at people they were

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they were some kind of weird

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basically said they were like some kind

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of cross between wolves and humans they

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they stood up and then crossed in all

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fours type of thing

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he I I asked him if he'd been drinking

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or smoking any of the you know funny

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weed and no no no no no I oh I had a I

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had a beer or two he said but no I was

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I've never seen anything like this or so

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anyway we I went in and had him reenact

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where he he did take shots

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at at these these creatures uh because

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he was unnerved and they were of course

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trespassing

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I asked him specifically if he was if he

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fired warning shots

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he said no I felt like this was

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that I basically had to defend myself I

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I shot to kill and I I'm a fairly good

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shot he's been he had a really a rather

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large caliber

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338 or something was a big bore okay

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and and he said I I know that at that

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range I could not have missed

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I believe it was three times that I

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recall at the three different ones and

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it had no reason no there was no

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reaction whatsoever so I asked him are

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you sure you didn't miss

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he said no I'm I'm quite a good shot

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even though you know it's open side

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there was no scope on the rifle

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he says at that range there was no way I

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so I proceeded to go uh looking in the

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or he said he stood in the fire and I

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did find the you know the the ejected

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rounds I I picked up his his empties

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and they were fresh they seem to smell

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the powder still on them

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and then I went to uh where he said they

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stood where he shot Adam there were

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three different locations we took three

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different shots is that recall

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and then he went in and I went uh I

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looked where they were looking for any

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type of fur or hair or blood primarily

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it was a clean myth as far as I consider

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like you said there was just nothing to

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show that there was any type of of

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evidence of a hit now keep in mind I'm a

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I'm a hundred of 40 years experience and

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I I know how to Trail a blooded wounded

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animal or or a mortally wounded one I

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there's just no sign that this was any

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type of of a hit at all okay

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and the third shot he actually fired the

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the creature was across the fence

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on the you know uh it was looking at

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coming back and threatening him so he

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shot just over the boundary of your

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property property

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and yet I went so I went over the fence

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and looked and same thing there was no

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sign of anything there I I must say Ryan

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I also looked for tracks and couldn't

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see any tracks of any kind of no

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disturbance of the soil or brush I mean

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it just looked like it was

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a make-believe story other than the

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so about that time is when you arrived

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on the scene as I recall yeah

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and you took matters and you hit you

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interviewed your your caretaker and uh I

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think our store the stories matched

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completely

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and so I just you know Mr Leighton

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looked at me like

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this is another strange thing isn't it

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this is weird I said Mike what can I say

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I don't see how he could have missed it

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it was probably around 40 to 50 yards

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uh in inside so I I would say this is

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not a jackrabbit I don't think uh he

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could have missed either but he did uh

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there was no evidence of it okay

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so yeah the story gets stranger I don't

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know how much you want to go into it but

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it's quite to tell isn't it it really is

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and I'm I'm glad that you mentioned that

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there were no tracks because that

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becomes important later on in the story

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and uh possibly some of the dimensional

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characteristics of uh these entities or

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possible individuals who were

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dimensionally walking

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um if we want to call it that for lack

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of a better word I guess you could say

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skin walking if that's more but let's

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let's yeah let's go back to where I

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don't want to jump too far ahead I'm

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and I must say the ground uh there was

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different you know the ground is in

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places is Stony and there's there's a

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brush but the other place where he said

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they were standing in order shot was

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was

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um basically just dirt and would have

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been left tracks I'm I mean there was no

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rain there's no really no wind

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uh it should have had some tracks of

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some sort because they my tracks were

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clearly visible

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and there was just nothing there it

283
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looked like it was you know undisturbed

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ground so I had to question his story

285
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based on there was just no tracks yeah

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there was an empty empty exacted uh

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bullet casing

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and the third individual was also an

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expert tracker he's done his share of

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tracking so I felt pretty confident that

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you guys knew what you were talking

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yeah

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um Mr Laden couldn't get around still

294
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can't get around too well so again he

295
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kind of laid back and but yes I'm

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telling you that it didn't add up

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I thought well it took three three wild

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shots and then you arrived on the scene

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and and we began to investigate also

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yourself so

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and while I was investigating there on

302
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the property

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um the three of you uh jumped in I

304
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believe it was your vehicle

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and went down to kind of check out uh

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the area

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and I unfortunately didn't see this part

308
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but uh the report that I got back was

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right we we're actually uh talked to the

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gentleman I won't give you his name he's

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a local fellow there but you know who he

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is yep

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um to kind of see what's going on

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because he kind of uh retired school

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teacher and very much uh knows what's

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going on as far as dispatching with

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emergency vehicles because

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we noticed that right down I'm not sure

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what the direction is there whether it's

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uh on the east side

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of the skin walker property there was a

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uh it was like a double white kind of

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prefab trailer type of unit

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and I'd honestly looked like some kind

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of a cop convention was going on there

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was all kinds of lights flashing

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very bizarre

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um what's going on over there you know

329
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so that's where we went to to kind of

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look and see what was going on our the

331
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fellow we talked with had just said

332
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there's been there's been a couple of

333
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there's been three shootings in on the

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reservation area

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and that's what the hubbub is well we

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sat down I sat on my vehicle in an

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advantage point and uh one of the

338
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sheriff's deputies came up and asked you

339
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know who why he was and saw my license

340
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plate I think he took my license plate

341
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down

342
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I gave him my you know sort of my idea

343
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from Ogden Utah

344
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and I said we're just here with uh you

345
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know have behalf of a friend and we just

346
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wondering if we can be of assistance

347
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seeing us all there's a lot of emergency

348
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vehicles can we help in any way he says

349
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no I think you you know you need to kind

350
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of move along I said well the other part

351
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of this is I am I have pressed

352
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credentials I I do a radio talk show so

353
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if it's all all the same to you I'd like

354
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to see what unfolds and I showed him my

355
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press credentials and he said well just

356
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stay just stay back here don't go into

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the perimeter and we'll be fine okay

358
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that's what I did

359
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so we sat there and watched as even more

360
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emergency vehicles came in

361
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uh there was a a

362
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forensics crime lab a vehicle pulled in

363
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uh there was I must have been over a

364
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dozen emergency vehicles most of them

365
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still having their lights flashing

366
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privacy

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and then we watched as a an ambulance

368
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and a coroner the coroner's office

369
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ambulance comes in and we watched I I

370
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had binoculars and watched as they they

371
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brought in The Goonies and and had two

372
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body bags come out

373
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and that to us as well there's

374
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fatalities what's going on with us this

375
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is an interesting story

376
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well our friend that is knows about

377
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dispatch that we talked called him he

378
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says yeah well there's

379
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there's three fatalities and what's

380
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strange

381
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is this got the police baffled because

382
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dwelling there's been a sign of forced

383
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entry

384
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and they're both dead from large bore

385
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gunshot wounds all three of them the

386
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same same situation and then the

387
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gentleman said well what's strange is

388
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the the uh Tribal Police the third

389
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person is actually known he's not he's

390
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not a a youth or a northern Shoshone

391
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he is Navajo and

392
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has been known to be here doing Black

393
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Magic and was asked to leave the

394
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reservation on numerous occasions before

395
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but had not done so

396
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so there's a Navajo fatality who was

397
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known to be practicing

398
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quote Black Magic

399
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and was you know not uh there's been

400
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complaints about it by some of the the

401
00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:20,520
youth uh individuals when they asked him

402
00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:22,679
to to leave but he

403
00:18:27,409 --> 00:18:26,280
did not vacate the reservation so that's

404
00:18:30,169 --> 00:18:27,419
what we know

405
00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:30,179
um that there were three fatalities now

406
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,100
then as as the emergency vehicles began

407
00:18:38,570 --> 00:18:37,440
to leave the scene when the ambulance

408
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:38,580
left

409
00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:43,520
the we were surprised to see a Utah

410
00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:48,179
Division of Wildlife Resources dwr uh

411
00:18:52,130 --> 00:18:50,640
vehicle uh one thing I believe there was

412
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two officers

413
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that came in

414
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and they were there for about well 20

415
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minutes to maybe a half an hour

416
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and they were put the last uh to leave

417
00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:06,720
along with the the final sheriff's

418
00:19:11,390 --> 00:19:08,760
deputies I recall

419
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:11,400
and so as they were coming out I I just

420
00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:14,160
I kind of waved them down and talked

421
00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:17,100
with the dwr officials and I gave him

422
00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:19,380
some of my press credentials and they

423
00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:21,900
said we refused to go on the record at

424
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this point because it's just okay off

425
00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:25,919
the Record what are you

426
00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:29,100
here for I mean this is a crime scene

427
00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:32,220
he said well we have a lot there's a lot

428
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:33,720
of of

429
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:36,480
very strange uh animal pelts here

430
00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:39,120
there's bear pelts there's

431
00:19:45,289 --> 00:19:42,360
uh mule deer there's they looked be

432
00:19:50,289 --> 00:19:45,299
illegally taken there's even a lot of

433
00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:50,299
coyote uh and what looks like wolf tail

434
00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:52,860
and they thought that it was very

435
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:53,880
strange

436
00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,840
because uh one of the animal pills he

437
00:20:01,310 --> 00:19:59,160
didn't say which one

438
00:20:02,450 --> 00:20:01,320
had would look to be a fresh bullet

439
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:02,460
wound in it

440
00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:05,039
two of them

441
00:20:09,470 --> 00:20:06,900
like they were just killed recently but

442
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,480
they were not bloody per se

443
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:11,820
very strange anomaly and

444
00:20:19,730 --> 00:20:17,039
he he took the pelts into evidence

445
00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:19,740
and wrote up a report but had no idea

446
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:23,100
where their Source once they came that

447
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,260
type of thing and he didn't want to

448
00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:27,600
elaborate any more than than just saying

449
00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:29,760
there was a legally taken but appears to

450
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:32,100
be illegally taken pelts at first

451
00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:36,799
he was investigating at least Wild

452
00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:39,960
yeah totally Wild

453
00:20:45,529 --> 00:20:43,440
there's there's a anybody that is

454
00:20:47,690 --> 00:20:45,539
listening to this and thinks this may be

455
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,700
a little crazy well of course it's a lot

456
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:49,679
crazy but

457
00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:53,039
there was a a book published Ryan I

458
00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,799
think it was 1864 just as the Civil War

459
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:57,120
was winding down

460
00:21:03,710 --> 00:21:00,080
uh the author was a fellow named uh

461
00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:03,720
saving Gould Sabine gold Barry bearing

462
00:21:06,529 --> 00:21:05,640
save and gold I believe is the author's

463
00:21:09,049 --> 00:21:06,539
name

464
00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:09,059
the book is entitled The Book of

465
00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:11,100
werewolves it was not

466
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,100
it was not uh you know fictional account

467
00:21:20,270 --> 00:21:16,559
of you know a Halloween type of story

468
00:21:22,190 --> 00:21:20,280
this was a scientific creatus of the

469
00:21:25,690 --> 00:21:22,200
reality of werewolves

470
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:25,700
and interdimensional uh phenomena

471
00:21:32,330 --> 00:21:30,299
burying save on gold had uh had an

472
00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:32,340
experience what he described in the book

473
00:21:38,570 --> 00:21:34,940
when he was in the south of France

474
00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:38,580
the these villagers they were staying

475
00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:42,260
started around midnight was screaming

476
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:45,780
which is you know the The Walking wall

477
00:21:50,649 --> 00:21:48,240
for the werewolf and

478
00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:50,659
he proceeded to

479
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explain that he watched

480
00:21:59,630 --> 00:21:57,059
as would only be described as

481
00:22:01,549 --> 00:21:59,640
if I say this because

482
00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:01,559
it's almost exact same description as

483
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:03,260
your caretaker saw

484
00:22:10,669 --> 00:22:08,159
a large uh wolf-like creature but kind

485
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,679
of walking more on his hind legs and

486
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,679
then going down to all fours but it's

487
00:22:18,649 --> 00:22:15,440
but exhibiting

488
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,659
uh applied athletic abilities to jump

489
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,880
over hedgerows and fences of the Iran

490
00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:22,320
and the moonlight

491
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okay

492
00:22:27,890 --> 00:22:24,360
[Music]

493
00:22:30,409 --> 00:22:27,900
so there was a whole I mean this this

494
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,419
book is quite well researched I have a

495
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:32,880
hard copy of it it's quite a quite a

496
00:22:37,549 --> 00:22:34,440
rare addition

497
00:22:39,470 --> 00:22:37,559
but doggone it talks about uh he goes an

498
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:39,480
experiment he experienced what he saw

499
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,100
and then he then he began to

500
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:44,400
scientifically delve into the history of

501
00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:47,039
this and it's very credible

502
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:50,340
it's it made me uh stop and scratch my

503
00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:51,120
head

504
00:22:58,430 --> 00:22:55,320
he went into the archives of of the the

505
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,440
local Monastery the church this goes

506
00:23:04,010 --> 00:23:00,799
clear back into the Dark Ages

507
00:23:06,169 --> 00:23:04,020
that they had well the church had

508
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,179
documented specific bloodline

509
00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:08,640
individuals that were simply under a

510
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,900
curse of this

511
00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:12,000
and it seemed like this would follow

512
00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:13,980
moon cycles

513
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:15,960
now I'm not sure maybe you can remember

514
00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:18,960
was there a full moon that I think there

515
00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:19,980
was

516
00:23:27,409 --> 00:23:25,260
caretaker said If You Could See quite

517
00:23:31,549 --> 00:23:27,419
well even though it was like about

518
00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:33,710
that's right no that all parallels that

519
00:23:39,649 --> 00:23:36,780
book the book of werewolves

520
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:39,659
and there was another episode or I guess

521
00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:42,120
at the same time not to get too

522
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:45,720
tangential but in another County around

523
00:23:51,529 --> 00:23:49,200
the same time there was another body is

524
00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:51,539
that correct

525
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:53,340
yeah there was there were the two there

526
00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:56,340
just off the off the the skinwalker

527
00:24:00,350 --> 00:23:57,539
property

528
00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:00,360
and the third party was this Navajo

529
00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:03,240
yeah it was it was it was more I think

530
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,340
it was more towards Duchesne it was

531
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:07,200
still part of the res property I

532
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:09,480
understand I don't know I didn't delve

533
00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:10,740
into it

534
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:13,580
uh I didn't know what to think frankly

535
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:16,860
uh what in the world they all kind of

536
00:24:20,450 --> 00:24:18,179
had the same

537
00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:20,460
same type of

538
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:22,460
you know

539
00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:24,600
unexplained death

540
00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:28,679
uh a bullet you know uh large caliber

541
00:24:33,049 --> 00:24:29,820
bullet wound

542
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:33,059
and yet they were behind locked doors

543
00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:35,700
this is so intriguing to me and I have

544
00:24:39,169 --> 00:24:37,559
to read this older book that you

545
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:39,179
mentioned because

546
00:24:45,169 --> 00:24:42,360
the Intriguing thing is I I have spoken

547
00:24:47,630 --> 00:24:45,179
with Native tribal members there in the

548
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:47,640
area who have a lot more knowledge about

549
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,460
this than I do and they've told me that

550
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:52,980
when these quote-unquote shifts happen

551
00:24:58,490 --> 00:24:56,100
that it's not uh like you see on Teen

552
00:25:01,130 --> 00:24:58,500
Wolf or popularized by Hollywood movies

553
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,140
you know with the bones crunching and

554
00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:03,919
the howling at the moon and a physical

555
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:06,900
manifestation but it is more of a

556
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:09,720
dimensional manifestation that takes

557
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:13,260
place uh where the

558
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:17,700
uh person involved with the occult

559
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:20,100
practice or the dark adept

560
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:22,740
actually starts to see themselves

561
00:25:27,289 --> 00:25:25,860
running through the woods in sort of a

562
00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:27,299
uh

563
00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:30,419
tunnel vision type scenario and

564
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:34,140
manifests in more of a dimensional way

565
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:36,900
than a physical way however there is

566
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:37,980
that

567
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:41,880
physical other out there wherever they

568
00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:45,360
are manifesting and this this tail and

569
00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:46,919
it sounds like this book that you're

570
00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:49,380
recommending kind of drives that home

571
00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:52,140
even more for me

572
00:25:58,610 --> 00:25:55,080
you're right they they uh he goes into

573
00:26:01,610 --> 00:25:58,620
into talking to clergy

574
00:26:03,289 --> 00:26:01,620
uh that uh have historically been

575
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:03,299
trained in this area

576
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:05,400
they say there is what's they they use

577
00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:08,580
what's called a magic apron of made of

578
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:11,400
the skin of the animal that they're

579
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:14,039
becoming one with interdimentially and

580
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:17,820
they call it a hora h-u-r-e-hora

581
00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:22,559
is what they say and the physical

582
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:24,419
uh it's caucus it's like an

583
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,220
interdimensional spell according to this

584
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:28,640
book The the practitioner

585
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:31,620
uh takes on the characteristics of the

586
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:33,779
animal what some sometimes it's a can be

587
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:34,980
a bear

588
00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:38,400
uh a horse they've been able to take the

589
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:41,159
shape of horses but most commonly it's

590
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,260
Wolves there's something to do with the

591
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:45,360
wolf interdimentially that that makes it

592
00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:48,659
the practice uh sometimes I think

593
00:26:53,149 --> 00:26:51,299
coyotes can do that I've heard heard

594
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,159
people on the naval reservation say that

595
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:56,159
coyotes are quite common uh human form

596
00:27:00,430 --> 00:26:58,140
going that way but you're right it's

597
00:27:03,169 --> 00:27:00,440
interdimensional They Don't Really Leave

598
00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:03,179
the physical area where they're doing

599
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:05,880
the spell they can be like if three

600
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:09,360
people can be United uh in saying the

601
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:11,220
same words maybe through a cellular

602
00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:12,120
phone

603
00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:15,059
having it all connected now there's a

604
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:17,880
new uh predictive programming TV series

605
00:27:25,070 --> 00:27:22,320
called Quantum Leap okay where this is

606
00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:25,080
this is not

607
00:27:30,169 --> 00:27:27,480
too far-fetched because there's there's

608
00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:30,179
people in remote viewing with CIA that

609
00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:32,340
that the next phase of remote viewing is

610
00:27:36,049 --> 00:27:34,440
actually becoming their dimensional and

611
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:36,059
they can actually go into the body of

612
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:39,539
somebody at some place in time but the

613
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:43,860
key Point both in the book of werewolves

614
00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:47,520
uh the Hora the Trent the the black

615
00:27:56,930 --> 00:27:49,880
magical transformation

616
00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:56,940
if you die as a uh shapeshifter you die

617
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,130
interesting yeah as it hits you uh it

618
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,440
can manifest as a deadly wound

619
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:09,360
that's one of the things that that was

620
00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:10,740
that was

621
00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:14,220
touched upon in the book of werewolves

622
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:15,720
that they're not they're not

623
00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:19,140
indestructible in their magical State

624
00:28:25,610 --> 00:28:22,980
they can they will appear to be totally

625
00:28:27,769 --> 00:28:25,620
you know just like

626
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:27,779
um uh the hunt for the skin walker with

627
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:30,419
the Shermans they they met it hadn't had

628
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:34,559
large uh direwolf manifest and and uh Mr

629
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:36,840
Sherman is a you know cracked shot with

630
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:38,520
his 30-06

631
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:41,279
he swears he's he's shot it and shot it

632
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:44,100
and saw he had to have direct hits but

633
00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:45,480
then it just

634
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:47,460
you know nothing died but it just

635
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,720
disappeared in the middle of that field

636
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,220
mm-hmm

637
00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:52,559
that is what I'm talking about whoever

638
00:28:57,649 --> 00:28:55,559
was touching that if it was you know it

639
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,659
could have been interdimensional like a

640
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,760
Bigfoot and not had

641
00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:02,640
any type of of Death happen but if it

642
00:29:06,649 --> 00:29:04,740
was somebody messing around through

643
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:06,659
black magic that person was probably

644
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,000
dead somewhere with the with the large

645
00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:12,080
caliber series of gunshot wounds on him

646
00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:16,200
wow and this this does line up with

647
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,380
information I've gathered from others

648
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:21,679
who have looked into these practices

649
00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:24,480
there is a YouTube channel called

650
00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:26,760
dimensional walking with a couple of

651
00:29:33,529 --> 00:29:29,700
individuals I've spoken with and uh it's

652
00:29:38,330 --> 00:29:33,539
uh Mike Wazowski and rainbow radalli and

653
00:29:40,370 --> 00:29:38,340
much of this does seem to take place in

654
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,380
kind of a dimensional

655
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:43,679
reality which you know when you when you

656
00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:46,740
navigate the activity of these dark

657
00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:47,940
adepts

658
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:50,940
it's wild that there is sort of a by

659
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:00,350
yeah exactly that's that matches

660
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:04,679
uh very much so there is a you know my

661
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:06,120
theory about it is though it's not in

662
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:08,820
the book by save on gold but as I've

663
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:13,440
read it I thought well the the skin or

664
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:16,740
or Pelt the horror

665
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:20,580
well it really is the DNA of that into

666
00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:22,980
of that that creature

667
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:26,279
now if you utilize some kind of other

668
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:27,960
you know spell casting

669
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:31,020
interdimensionally you can take on that

670
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:33,960
around your midsection you become that

671
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:36,539
individual in in a dimensional form

672
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,039
so

673
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:40,080
seeing as what happened there with your

674
00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:42,059
with your caretaker it's the only thing

675
00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:44,700
I can I can imagine I

676
00:30:48,169 --> 00:30:45,260
I

677
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:48,179
don't believe he would be shooting at a

678
00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:49,980
human being that way

679
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:53,640
but something very strange jumping what

680
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:57,179
how tall was your fans foot by foot yeah

681
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:00,600
I'm not saying like it wasn't even there

682
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:02,820
yeah he said they sprightly jumped right

683
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:05,820
over it without any effort

684
00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:08,460
and your camera was how high about 12

685
00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:11,580
feet easily up on the pole easily 12

686
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:12,779
feet

687
00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:16,140
and he was able to you know go right up

688
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,899
on that poll it's like like that that's

689
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:20,080
what unnerved him

690
00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:22,500
[Music]

691
00:31:27,049 --> 00:31:24,600
yeah that's that's not your average

692
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,059
human can't jump up that high at least I

693
00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:28,880
can't

694
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:32,520
no so that's what you know it's like

695
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,919
again that's what takes the takes it on

696
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:37,919
these uh these moonlit Knights of the

697
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:40,260
full moon there's and there's definitely

698
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:43,380
something with the loop garoo

699
00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:46,980
a Legends of the the you know what

700
00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:48,419
happens during the night of the full

701
00:31:54,409 --> 00:31:51,140
moon whether it's the

702
00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:54,419
electromagnetic uh structures because

703
00:32:00,289 --> 00:31:56,700
that's you know there's always more of a

704
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:00,299
pull-on tidal large bodies of water

705
00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:02,460
something in dimensional can happen on

706
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:05,100
that night of the full moon

707
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,240
um in fact

708
00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:07,919
you know that we have the English word

709
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:11,820
lunacy and lunatic tying into Luna

710
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:15,360
cycles of the full moon it's a fact uh

711
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,580
most emergency rooms in any any major

712
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:20,159
metropolitan area see a real uptick in

713
00:32:24,769 --> 00:32:22,440
in cases after midnight of full moons

714
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:24,779
for whatever reason

715
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:29,520
this is true this is true and um

716
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,039
yeah there's there's a

717
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,559
there's a lot of a lot of interesting

718
00:32:39,649 --> 00:32:37,200
things surrounding this as well other

719
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:39,659
situations which have taken place on the

720
00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:44,460
property and later on uh myself I found

721
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:47,520
what I can only describe as

722
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:49,980
bullet holes through the actual

723
00:32:54,769 --> 00:32:52,440
caretakers quarters from the inside out

724
00:32:56,930 --> 00:32:54,779
so I believe

725
00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:56,940
um that uh towards the end of this

726
00:33:03,250 --> 00:32:59,820
caretaker's run things got a little bit

727
00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:03,260
hairy no pun intended or I guess it is

728
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,779
intended because yeah for somebody to

729
00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:08,880
shoot through a wall at something and

730
00:33:13,009 --> 00:33:10,740
and be

731
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,019
either it was a mistake and they were

732
00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:15,360
cleaning their weapon but given the

733
00:33:20,210 --> 00:33:17,700
history I'm not exactly sure there's

734
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,220
been other neighbors in neighboring

735
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:23,519
properties who have encountered similar

736
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,659
scenarios uh I'll leave last names out

737
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:29,519
of it but one of them is named Mark and

738
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:31,620
he he lives up by an area known as

739
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,760
werewolf Point as you go towards well

740
00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:37,200
for people that are locals are going to

741
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:40,380
know exactly where I'm talking about but

742
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:41,039
um

743
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:42,840
as you go up towards bottle Hollow

744
00:33:48,769 --> 00:33:46,320
reservoir on the west side and this

745
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:48,779
individual encountered something very

746
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:52,260
similar uh this this wolf-like

747
00:33:58,669 --> 00:33:54,059
human-like

748
00:34:01,970 --> 00:33:58,679
amorphous just kind of mixed up shifted

749
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:01,980
entity on his property and he did fire

750
00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:06,000
upon it and he believed that he hid it

751
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:09,540
as well oddly he encountered what can

752
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,399
only be described in his own words as

753
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:13,679
Men In Black in the preceding days

754
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:15,419
afterwards he

755
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:20,760
he had some uh he had some visitors and

756
00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:22,740
um apparently the way The Story Goes is

757
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:26,280
it was relayed to me was that they were

758
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:28,200
in possession of

759
00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:32,760
these GPS satellite images of him taking

760
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:34,260
part in this

761
00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:37,619
action of shooting at this entity

762
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:39,960
and they were kind of trying to put the

763
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:41,700
fear of God in him saying you can't do

764
00:34:47,089 --> 00:34:43,980
that you can't shoot at people you know

765
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:47,099
this is manslaughter yada yada however

766
00:34:53,149 --> 00:34:50,760
he was very sure of what he saw and also

767
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:53,159
very sure that nobody else could see

768
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:55,379
this type of thing from well literally

769
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:58,560
space but apparently this technology

770
00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:01,920
does exist I haven't you know I I can't

771
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:03,900
validate this story because I have not

772
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,160
seen the images and but I do know I do

773
00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:10,079
know the individual and I do know the

774
00:35:13,609 --> 00:35:11,640
story very well and I do know everybody

775
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:13,619
involved and I don't think they have any

776
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,700
reason

777
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:17,280
uh to lie about this there would be no

778
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:20,040
function in in lying there's nothing to

779
00:35:23,710 --> 00:35:22,440
gain and he hasn't gone mainstream with

780
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:23,720
it so

781
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,400
you know these things have happened in

782
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,040
the area and there's other reports as

783
00:35:33,170 --> 00:35:31,920
I'm sure you know of these entities that

784
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:33,180
are somewhat

785
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:42,950
yeah that the latest uh updated book on

786
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:46,440
the skinwalker by Kelleher and and uh no

787
00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:49,619
uh what's his name um

788
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:53,220
um the reporter Nori oh George Knapp

789
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:55,320
Joe snap yeah I'm sorry

790
00:36:01,790 --> 00:35:59,160
uh yeah they talk about these these same

791
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:01,800
type of of

792
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,520
Wolf Man appearing in other part you

793
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:06,720
know after coming on this like

794
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,900
hitchhiker effect coming out to places

795
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,480
like in Virginia uh other places where

796
00:36:17,329 --> 00:36:14,940
they just almost like haunting the

797
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,339
individuals and and the property their

798
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:20,400
house in the woods and all this what if

799
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,320
this is speculation now there's nothing

800
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:24,720
to do with this on in the book we

801
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,960
reference but what if you delivered a

802
00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:30,000
morsel wound to the people as they're

803
00:36:36,010 --> 00:36:33,420
interdimensional uh and if and destroys

804
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:36,020
their physical body but their soul

805
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,540
becomes trapped inside of that entity

806
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:42,660
too would that not be a reason to to

807
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:45,000
come in the night to haunt somebody in

808
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:45,960
their sleep

809
00:36:50,930 --> 00:36:48,660
uh which would awaken and shoot shoot

810
00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:50,940
the gun and you know put bullet holes

811
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:51,960
into the wall

812
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:53,400
mm-hmm

813
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,020
I mean that's what that's what I think

814
00:37:02,210 --> 00:36:57,660
hauntings are all about frankly

815
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,490
so that's my speculation on what could

816
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:06,240
be happening I you don't know what

817
00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:08,220
happened to your caretaker but he he

818
00:37:14,089 --> 00:37:10,380
didn't uh fare too well afterwards did

819
00:37:15,890 --> 00:37:14,099
he no and I don't know that I would have

820
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:15,900
fared too well after having that

821
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:18,420
experience because there's just so so

822
00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:23,390
yeah and what are you going to do go to

823
00:37:27,470 --> 00:37:25,380
the police and tell this wild story you

824
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:27,480
know uh are they going to even believe

825
00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:30,119
it I mean there's no physical evidence

826
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,099
of evident crime being done it's not

827
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:33,839
illegal to discharge your gun on your

828
00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:36,300
property you know

829
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:38,460
um it's as bizarre as bizarre stories

830
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,740
I've ever seen witnessed

831
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:43,200
and I you know I just I just chalk

832
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:44,760
another one up to the strangers in the

833
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,380
you in the basement

834
00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:48,960
very true and

835
00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:51,540
it's not just in the Uintah Basin I've

836
00:37:57,410 --> 00:37:53,540
you know down in the Shiprock area

837
00:38:00,170 --> 00:37:57,420
that's definitely reservation Navajo

838
00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:00,180
country there's a there is uh you tribal

839
00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:02,040
members there nearby as well

840
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:04,859
and down in the Shiprock area I've heard

841
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:08,400
Tales from the Navajo Rangers when I got

842
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:10,980
a chance to meet with them and many of

843
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:13,800
their Tales are similar where uh one

844
00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:16,800
particular tale was of a gentleman who

845
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:20,040
had a similar experience he did in fact

846
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,200
unload on this

847
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:24,720
creature in his View

848
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:26,700
and when he

849
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:30,000
approached it after a direct hit what he

850
00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:32,760
found was quite interesting something

851
00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:33,960
like

852
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,099
it was uh in his words it just it just

853
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,960
didn't look right there are images of it

854
00:38:46,609 --> 00:38:44,400
online

855
00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:46,619
um the Navajo Ranger I spoke with was

856
00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:51,480
John and uh he he had images of these

857
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:53,220
that he was showing me there was another

858
00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:56,520
case of an individual who shot at

859
00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:57,780
something similar

860
00:39:02,569 --> 00:38:59,700
and

861
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,579
it was when he did approach in this

862
00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,440
other scenario this other completely

863
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:07,500
separate event when he approached it was

864
00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:09,900
a person he had in fact shot a person

865
00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:11,940
but he was sure of what he saw

866
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:15,180
beforehand so it really makes you wonder

867
00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:18,240
if we're dealing with the same thing

868
00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:21,420
different things uh depending on the

869
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,579
state of the dark Adept at the moment

870
00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:26,160
when this interaction takes place like

871
00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:29,339
what comes into play because it is a lot

872
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:31,260
like a science almost like remote

873
00:39:36,349 --> 00:39:34,200
viewing where you know sometimes there's

874
00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:36,359
a hit on Target and other times there's

875
00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:39,480
not when you're remote viewing and it

876
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:41,460
makes me wonder if it's it's similar

877
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,560
with this interdimensional shape

878
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:48,470
yeah it's uh it's a definitely something

879
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,540
to explore and if Mr Knapp wants to

880
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,000
really get his investigative hat on he

881
00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:55,680
can he can help with that but listen I

882
00:40:00,349 --> 00:39:57,660
gotta I had another experience when I

883
00:40:03,970 --> 00:40:00,359
was a young LDS uh Mormon missionary

884
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:03,980
back in the 70s late uh

885
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:08,820
1978 I was a assigned to be uh with a a

886
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,040
Navajo uh Indian companion named Mike

887
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,000
Chiquito we were we were on the Eastern

888
00:40:23,329 --> 00:40:20,400
Shores there of Lake Erie there's a

889
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:23,339
large Indian Reservation called the

890
00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:25,740
cataragus reservation

891
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,200
and we were assigned there to basically

892
00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:30,960
proselyte the Mormon faith you know to

893
00:40:37,370 --> 00:40:33,420
the Native American cataracts tribe as

894
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:37,380
part of the Algonquin culture okay so uh

895
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:39,900
we started doing that we talked to the

896
00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:43,920
tribal Elders to get a kind of a uh an

897
00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:45,900
idea of what their religious practices

898
00:40:50,690 --> 00:40:47,880
are and they invited us to come to along

899
00:40:52,849 --> 00:40:50,700
what's called a long Lodge dance okay

900
00:40:54,010 --> 00:40:52,859
they had these long what's called long

901
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,020
lodges

902
00:40:59,710 --> 00:40:56,880
and uh they didn't want us to come in

903
00:41:02,270 --> 00:40:59,720
certain tie the chemists come in casual

904
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:02,280
casual attired this is something that

905
00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:04,500
informal will have a dinner and we'll

906
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:06,320
feed you then we'll have the ceremony

907
00:41:12,410 --> 00:41:09,260
replayed with drums and you know fire

908
00:41:14,569 --> 00:41:12,420
fire pit that type of thing well

909
00:41:17,089 --> 00:41:14,579
the food was excellent they fed us

910
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:17,099
they're very hospitable absolutely fed

911
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:20,640
and and we were very graciously treated

912
00:41:25,810 --> 00:41:23,700
so we were sitting there with the L with

913
00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:25,820
the the tribal elders

914
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:29,579
and the dance began and the drums

915
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:32,520
bistarted the dancing began and keep in

916
00:41:36,109 --> 00:41:34,320
mind it's like almost like a bonfire in

917
00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:36,119
the center of the long Lodge

918
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,579
uh coming up to the Smoke going up

919
00:41:42,589 --> 00:41:40,800
through the the roof

920
00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:42,599
and as they started dancing there were

921
00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:43,560
you know

922
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:47,220
um uh dancers with with horned antlers

923
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,040
pelts on them you know Similac you know

924
00:41:55,970 --> 00:41:52,800
symbolizing the whitetail deer and other

925
00:41:58,970 --> 00:41:55,980
things and then suddenly there was howls

926
00:42:00,290 --> 00:41:58,980
and about 10 dancers come in with wolf

927
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:00,300
pelts

928
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:02,520
on him you know and I thought was this

929
00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:04,920
is like signifying the Wolves chasing

930
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:07,380
the deer or something

931
00:42:14,349 --> 00:42:10,560
uh then I I looked around for my

932
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:14,359
companion and he had vanished he

933
00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:17,099
was not sticking around we were driving

934
00:42:24,050 --> 00:42:22,740
a little fortuno uh at the time he we I

935
00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:24,060
mean I didn't even see him leave it was

936
00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:27,020
dark and you know except for the fire

937
00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:30,060
he's running he grabbed and he did the

938
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:32,460
unpardable sin leaving His companion you

939
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,619
know don't you don't separate

940
00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:37,440
but he left me high and dry

941
00:42:44,089 --> 00:42:40,920
um I had to beg to ride back to our

942
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:44,099
place and he was barricaded up in in our

943
00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:45,960
little uh one room apartment he was

944
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:48,300
barricaded I mean locked doors latched

945
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:49,619
and everything

946
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:52,560
let me in no you can't come in I said

947
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,900
are you okay you know what's the matter

948
00:42:57,710 --> 00:42:56,160
with you

949
00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:57,720
well they talked to him and opening the

950
00:43:02,690 --> 00:42:59,220
door all they could say was he was he

951
00:43:06,349 --> 00:43:02,700
was terrified he was saying one word

952
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:06,359
anuplets a new pics anupins

953
00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:07,680
I said

954
00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:10,440
what is an Olympics what are you saying

955
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:12,660
talk talk English

956
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,540
um he says well that's Navajo uh Native

957
00:43:20,530 --> 00:43:17,040
American for

958
00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:20,540
basically Skinwalker um shapeshifter

959
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,460
wow that's super similar sounding to

960
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:25,800
Anubis you know which is that's what I'm

961
00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:28,200
saying that's so interesting yeah yeah

962
00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:30,900
which which is the jackal-headed god of

963
00:43:35,329 --> 00:43:33,300
the underworld of the Dead amazing

964
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:35,339
coincidence

965
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:37,020
exactly

966
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,960
so I I said what in the world did you do

967
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:41,760
are you okay he says I don't want to I

968
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:43,980
want to leave I want to leave the area

969
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:46,740
uh I had to call the next day my mission

970
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,420
president and transferred out because he

971
00:43:53,329 --> 00:43:51,420
was petrified he said no this is very

972
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:53,339
real I've I've seen I've seen a new

973
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:56,760
place I've seen anupus the the the you

974
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:58,020
know the shape-shifting in the

975
00:44:02,329 --> 00:44:00,420
reservation he knew it he says they were

976
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:02,339
invoking some very dark Spirits he had

977
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,140
to get out of there

978
00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:06,720
so this is I guess this is not just the

979
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:09,720
southwest Indian culture it's also seems

980
00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:12,780
to be the same you know in the Algonquin

981
00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:15,660
you know the the Eastern tribes as well

982
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:17,400
so it's

983
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:19,260
I'll never forget that I wrote it in my

984
00:44:23,089 --> 00:44:21,300
missionary Journal like

985
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:23,099
um my companion I wrote something like

986
00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:25,740
this my companion is way overly

987
00:44:30,770 --> 00:44:28,920
superstitious I thought he was very rude

988
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:30,780
and he he did the unpardonable sin

989
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,700
living His companion you know things can

990
00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:35,040
happen under the Mormon rules of conduct

991
00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:36,680
you don't do that

992
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,020
and you know

993
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:41,760
it's against the code

994
00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:42,780
yeah

995
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:45,540
you know anyway in all fairness though

996
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:48,960
the supernatural that you know the the

997
00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:52,740
just the being superstitious you start

998
00:44:57,530 --> 00:44:55,500
to understand it after a while because

999
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:57,540
of situations like the ones we're

1000
00:45:01,130 --> 00:44:59,280
discussing so I mean I can't blame the

1001
00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:01,140
guy

1002
00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:03,420
yeah it was it was Eerie because in the

1003
00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:05,460
in the light of that was coming off of

1004
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:09,540
the fire uh these these Shadows did

1005
00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:12,480
appear to be wolf you know manifesting

1006
00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:15,240
and he was I I know he was there when

1007
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:17,940
the when the deer dancers came in and

1008
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:19,260
did all of that but when the Wolves

1009
00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:20,520
appeared and they started dancing around

1010
00:45:25,809 --> 00:45:23,099
the block he was vamoosed he was out of

1011
00:45:28,990 --> 00:45:25,819
there nothing's gonna stop him

1012
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:29,000
he was gone so

1013
00:45:36,829 --> 00:45:32,700
Anubis and nupit yeah very very similar

1014
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,839
uh semantics super similar in Egyptian

1015
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:38,940
Jackal had a god of the Dead yeah and

1016
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:41,160
those coincidences they don't stop there

1017
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:44,460
you know when I began researching some

1018
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:48,480
of the some of this occult dark magic

1019
00:45:52,910 --> 00:45:50,520
you know there are some fairly hard to

1020
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,920
get books out there

1021
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:55,440
um that you can find from time to time

1022
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:58,200
and uh when I find them I definitely

1023
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:01,680
hang on to them I latch on and I got the

1024
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:04,980
heads up from uh Jacques valet that

1025
00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:07,500
there were very interesting similarities

1026
00:46:13,609 --> 00:46:10,200
in the Middle East to some of the things

1027
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:13,619
that are seen in the U in a basin and

1028
00:46:20,089 --> 00:46:17,280
um I started kind of looking into the

1029
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:20,099
Dark Arts of the Middle East as well and

1030
00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:22,619
you know what I was fascinated by is

1031
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:26,220
that Jacques was right there a lot of

1032
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:27,119
the

1033
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:44,720
with shape-shifting capability as well

1034
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:48,240
and interestingly a lot

1035
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:51,680
of similarities as far as candle work

1036
00:46:57,530 --> 00:46:55,500
some of the rituals that take place the

1037
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,540
uh

1038
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:00,359
the adepts doing these dark occult

1039
00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:03,420
rituals are performing in very similar

1040
00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:05,940
ways and many times with the exact same

1041
00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:07,980
colored candles and the same formations

1042
00:47:12,650 --> 00:47:10,680
and it just brings you back to I mean

1043
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:12,660
there is no internet back then there was

1044
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,220
no World Wide Web how is it that the

1045
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:19,200
same similar

1046
00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:22,260
dark occult rituals are happening on one

1047
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,260
side of the globe as another when it's

1048
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:28,800
unfathomable almost that there would be

1049
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:30,599
inner communication between these two

1050
00:47:34,730 --> 00:47:32,400
areas so it's it's just it's

1051
00:47:36,589 --> 00:47:34,740
mind-blowing to me

1052
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,599
yeah and I've had the privilege of

1053
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:39,119
talking with the job ballet as well he

1054
00:47:41,890 --> 00:47:40,619
spent quite a bit of time here in the

1055
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:41,900
Basin

1056
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:45,000
and yeah as we met we were he was

1057
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,460
researching the the Bigfoot sightings

1058
00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:49,920
and Bigfoot scenarios interdimentially

1059
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:52,440
as well and he come to the conclusion

1060
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,500
he says I'm not I'm not going to to be

1061
00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:57,839
well accepted it's going to be a lot of

1062
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:00,300
of angry people but the bottom line is

1063
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:03,180
this he said uh Bigfoot is

1064
00:48:09,950 --> 00:48:07,140
interdimensional as Are UFOs they are

1065
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:09,960
not of this dimensional plane he says

1066
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,540
the evidence is overwhelming to me that

1067
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,640
the UFO phenomenon or are

1068
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:17,040
interdimensional not from a galaxy far

1069
00:48:20,930 --> 00:48:19,140
far away

1070
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:20,940
and that's what I appreciate about

1071
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:23,160
people like yourself and Jacques it's

1072
00:48:27,710 --> 00:48:25,740
it's not a popularity contest if you

1073
00:48:30,410 --> 00:48:27,720
know when you do research this long when

1074
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,420
you have an opinion I mean it's best to

1075
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:32,400
State it because you've spent so much

1076
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:34,260
time doing it and you do that as well

1077
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:37,440
many times at the you know expense of

1078
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,540
people quote unquote agreeing with you

1079
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,480
and I appreciate that about you

1080
00:48:48,829 --> 00:48:45,420
well I just I just call as I see it I

1081
00:48:51,050 --> 00:48:48,839
you know I came I came like uh Mr Layton

1082
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:51,060
said a code red code red we got to go

1083
00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:52,500
and meet if you free

1084
00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:54,660
and well I just happened to be free and

1085
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:56,339
so we went over there and

1086
00:49:03,710 --> 00:48:59,520
uh I I'm just relating what I witnessed

1087
00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:03,720
and what I saw uh a young young lad uh

1088
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:05,819
your caretaker who was definitely

1089
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,240
agitated uh very much so and didn't know

1090
00:49:12,530 --> 00:49:10,800
where to turn was afraid he did

1091
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,540
something very wrong and was very

1092
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:13,920
fearful

1093
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:16,560
so yeah we were I don't know if we made

1094
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,140
the situation Better or Worse Ryan but

1095
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,599
it would it is what it is we witnessed

1096
00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:24,720
what we witnessed with that and I don't

1097
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:26,819
care if people believe it or not I I

1098
00:49:33,950 --> 00:49:28,980
must say it happened

1099
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,960
that's right it did and I I you know I

1100
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:35,520
don't want to beat a dead horse I mean

1101
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,220
we probably could stay on this track and

1102
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:40,400
talk about this forever but I wanted to

1103
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:43,140
also touch base on some other things

1104
00:49:47,809 --> 00:49:44,640
that you've been involved with

1105
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:47,819
research-wise and noticed and been privy

1106
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,760
to that a lot of people are not and that

1107
00:49:56,050 --> 00:49:53,040
is I mean we could go down a ton of

1108
00:49:59,569 --> 00:49:56,060
directions but I was mesmerized by your

1109
00:50:01,370 --> 00:49:59,579
presentation at uh up in the Uintah

1110
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:01,380
Basin of Utah you recently did a

1111
00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:02,940
presentation that I was lucky enough to

1112
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,560
take part of

1113
00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:07,200
um at the Moonlight Gathering and that

1114
00:50:12,730 --> 00:50:09,780
is these findings that are being found

1115
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:12,740
throughout the world but particularly

1116
00:50:19,849 --> 00:50:17,160
mesoamerica and these are basic can we

1117
00:50:21,710 --> 00:50:19,859
go into a little bit of that

1118
00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:21,720
well yeah and that's a perfect segue

1119
00:50:26,569 --> 00:50:24,420
with what uh Jacques Valley said these

1120
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:26,579
when you start going into the dark arts

1121
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,760
and start doing ritual sacrifice of of

1122
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:30,960
infants

1123
00:50:36,730 --> 00:50:34,680
there was uh Kaibab Pizza the the dot

1124
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:36,740
the deep well they're in Metro America

1125
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:39,180
that researchers have found they thought

1126
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:41,640
was a an old water well they wonder why

1127
00:50:47,809 --> 00:50:44,640
Drive they export down into it found it

1128
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:47,819
was a sacrificial well with literally

1129
00:50:54,109 --> 00:50:51,359
thousands of dead sacrificed children

1130
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,119
skeletons in the bottom around a stone

1131
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:57,839
Effigy they nicknamed Kaibab Iza

1132
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:00,540
well what is what is the what does

1133
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:04,559
Kaibab mean okay and uh what is ISA the

1134
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:07,740
the an ad Tech okay we're talking about

1135
00:51:11,450 --> 00:51:10,020
a shape-shifting interdimensional all

1136
00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:11,460
right

1137
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:16,200
um very much a an entity where they've I

1138
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,140
mean the Aztecs were trying to gain

1139
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:21,599
power to trying to gain

1140
00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:25,680
shall we say uh some kind of dimensional

1141
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:29,880
wisdom I would assume okay and so they

1142
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:33,119
began to do all these these rituals and

1143
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:34,319
and

1144
00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:38,220
they began to manifest as Jacques ballet

1145
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:41,220
said extraterrestrial beings and craft

1146
00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:44,640
interdimensional craft there was an a

1147
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:48,660
plethora of Unearthed artifacts of alien

1148
00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:52,559
ships I mean they were bestoned some of

1149
00:51:57,490 --> 00:51:55,260
them very well done and well preserved

1150
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:57,500
there was no doubt that

1151
00:52:04,730 --> 00:52:00,720
they this culture of the Aztecs was

1152
00:52:08,569 --> 00:52:04,740
unified with these Fallen sons of God

1153
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:08,579
okay I believe that's exactly what uh

1154
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,900
though geography didn't go biblical uh

1155
00:52:17,150 --> 00:52:14,880
there was a you know the Book of Genesis

1156
00:52:20,510 --> 00:52:17,160
specifically says there were these

1157
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:20,520
the sons of God these Fallen Angels if

1158
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:23,400
you will that came to this Earth plane

1159
00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:26,880
and manifest and had sexual relations

1160
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:28,680
with Earth women

1161
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:32,280
and created an interbreeding uh race

1162
00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:35,160
of Mighty Men of renown as the Bible

1163
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:39,240
explains so so Genesis chapter 6 is is

1164
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:43,680
is very accurate I submit okay that the

1165
00:52:49,549 --> 00:52:46,920
Aztecs were were very much

1166
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:49,559
tied into that ritual and I think there

1167
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:52,079
was very much uh Interventional

1168
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:54,059
connections with with precious metals

1169
00:52:59,690 --> 00:52:56,640
gold and silver to this end

1170
00:53:03,049 --> 00:52:59,700
which is uh again what what led Cortez

1171
00:53:06,290 --> 00:53:03,059
and and all of that to basically you

1172
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,300
know basically destroy that that culture

1173
00:53:11,089 --> 00:53:08,880
uh the the goal was amazing they had

1174
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:11,099
massive amounts of gold and precious

1175
00:53:16,370 --> 00:53:13,680
precious jewels

1176
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:16,380
interdimensional completely to to access

1177
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:18,900
these uh these entities

1178
00:53:23,569 --> 00:53:21,180
all right and I think this is what John

1179
00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:23,579
ballet was uncovering I think this is

1180
00:53:27,230 --> 00:53:25,740
what he was discovering on his own

1181
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:27,240
research

1182
00:53:34,910 --> 00:53:32,460
it's so reminiscent of you know these

1183
00:53:39,770 --> 00:53:34,920
other researchers I think of various

1184
00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:39,780
books you have uh various cultures that

1185
00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:42,839
have pointed out these similarities in

1186
00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:47,160
Geographic locations that should not be

1187
00:53:52,329 --> 00:53:50,520
in any sort of communication given our

1188
00:53:55,730 --> 00:53:52,339
common modern

1189
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:55,740
analysis of where these cultures were at

1190
00:54:01,549 --> 00:53:59,099
that point in time yet there are these

1191
00:54:05,569 --> 00:54:01,559
intriguing fingerprints that are almost

1192
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,579
identical and it just it's just so

1193
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:07,280
mind-blowing that these cultures

1194
00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:11,520
regardless of location have similar dark

1195
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,099
adapts practicing similar occult rituals

1196
00:54:18,849 --> 00:54:16,640
with uh as you mentioned

1197
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:18,859
extraterrestrial looking

1198
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:22,640
in many cases demonic looking entities

1199
00:54:30,589 --> 00:54:26,880
and you know it brings me to something I

1200
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:30,599
just came across which was Dr Travis

1201
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:34,440
Taylor had a lunch at uh what is that

1202
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:37,140
the phenomicon he offered for 75 bucks

1203
00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:38,760
ahead people could have lunch with him

1204
00:54:43,849 --> 00:54:40,920
and ask him any question they wanted

1205
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:43,859
and someone released video footage of

1206
00:54:47,569 --> 00:54:45,720
what took place there

1207
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:47,579
I'll have to make sure and send it to

1208
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,500
you and what unless you've seen it

1209
00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:51,359
already one interesting thing that stood

1210
00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:54,780
out to me was he without making a long

1211
00:55:01,390 --> 00:54:58,980
story longer he went into how portions

1212
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:01,400
of the government intelligence Community

1213
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:06,079
are 100 percent convinced that this is

1214
00:55:12,250 --> 00:55:11,040
basically either demonic or Angelic and

1215
00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:12,260
uh

1216
00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,660
they said leave this stuff alone and

1217
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:17,940
behind closed doors try to limit the

1218
00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:20,880
funding that many of these projects and

1219
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,980
black budget

1220
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:24,240
um

1221
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:26,099
scenarios

1222
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,920
with with research they're running into

1223
00:55:35,329 --> 00:55:30,240
these

1224
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:35,339
there is a portion or a segment of the

1225
00:55:40,910 --> 00:55:37,020
intelligent Community who no one will

1226
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:40,920
name higher ups that are 100 convinced

1227
00:55:47,210 --> 00:55:44,900
that there is demonic or slash Angelic

1228
00:55:51,049 --> 00:55:47,220
traceable roots to some of these

1229
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:51,059
phenomena and it I don't you know it

1230
00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:54,359
sounds like crazy talk but is it well

1231
00:55:59,089 --> 00:55:56,220
actually not at all when you understand

1232
00:56:01,309 --> 00:55:59,099
even the origins of some of our

1233
00:56:03,049 --> 00:56:01,319
shall we say military industrial is

1234
00:56:05,329 --> 00:56:03,059
complex individuals

1235
00:56:07,849 --> 00:56:05,339
and I don't want to name names I don't

1236
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:07,859
want you know but my goodness many of

1237
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,720
them the names are right there in that

1238
00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:12,480
in George Knapp and Colin Keller's

1239
00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:15,059
latest book so do your own research when

1240
00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:18,119
you see there's millions of dollars put

1241
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:21,660
out to to a certain Aerospace company to

1242
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:26,480
do what to get this to to research

1243
00:56:32,089 --> 00:56:30,319
phenomenon tied into viruses

1244
00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:32,099
okay

1245
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:35,300
um as in coronaviruses about about

1246
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,880
controlling people and in a in a way uh

1247
00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:41,040
emotionally mentally through vaccination

1248
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:42,300
structures

1249
00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:44,280
what does this come this is coming out

1250
00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:46,140
of research on in this area of

1251
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:48,359
interdimensionality if this is not

1252
00:56:53,870 --> 00:56:50,280
demonic I don't know what is

1253
00:56:56,990 --> 00:56:53,880
uh and when they say Angelic well don't

1254
00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:57,000
don't forget who the fallen angels are I

1255
00:57:01,010 --> 00:56:58,920
mean these are Angelic angelics but

1256
00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:01,020
they're following they're not they're

1257
00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:04,260
not beneficial ones to support the the

1258
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:08,940
humanity as a as an ongoing concern okay

1259
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,520
you're going to be very careful on where

1260
00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:12,960
you step because there's a lot of cow

1261
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:15,240
pies in the field and you know I'm glad

1262
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:17,880
you brought this up because it is a

1263
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:21,359
known fact I remember looking on uh this

1264
00:57:25,849 --> 00:57:23,220
dates me and how old I am but I remember

1265
00:57:27,650 --> 00:57:25,859
looking on the nids back when the

1266
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:27,660
National Institute for Discovery Science

1267
00:57:32,690 --> 00:57:30,240
has had a website and I remember looking

1268
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:32,700
at the job applications area and they

1269
00:57:38,569 --> 00:57:35,420
were hiring nanotech technicians

1270
00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:38,579
nanotechnology experts a lot of things

1271
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:41,960
that now make more sense interestingly

1272
00:57:49,790 --> 00:57:46,619
in this lunch that Dr Taylor had with

1273
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,800
these others He also mentioned someone

1274
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,839
asked him about some of the processes

1275
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,000
that Bigelow took part in back in the

1276
00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:56,760
day and he jokingly mentioned some

1277
00:58:00,109 --> 00:57:59,339
things that we already knew about

1278
00:58:04,910 --> 00:58:00,119
um

1279
00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:04,920
true but for the listeners it was some

1280
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:07,260
of these experiments involved for

1281
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,559
example large fish aquariums at the top

1282
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:11,760
of

1283
00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:14,819
telephone poles which were clearly Out

1284
00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:17,880
Of Reach of anything physical and inside

1285
00:58:23,329 --> 00:58:21,300
of these aquariums Dr Taylor mentioned

1286
00:58:26,510 --> 00:58:23,339
that there were children's toys like

1287
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:26,520
those spelling blocks as well as Ouija

1288
00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:29,760
boards and other things which begs the

1289
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:32,280
question again with the Ouija board

1290
00:58:39,410 --> 00:58:35,760
this is a cult this is something that is

1291
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:39,420
typically associated with the occult and

1292
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:41,880
what is fundamentally taking place in

1293
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:44,520
these experiments well there you go

1294
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,599
um

1295
00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:48,000
just be just because

1296
00:58:53,170 --> 00:58:51,299
you can do something doesn't necessarily

1297
00:58:55,970 --> 00:58:53,180
mean that you should

1298
00:58:59,630 --> 00:58:55,980
all right all you really have to realize

1299
00:59:03,049 --> 00:58:59,640
is the the soul of man is eternal

1300
00:59:05,390 --> 00:59:03,059
you know we when we do pass on We The

1301
00:59:07,549 --> 00:59:05,400
Entity of energy that's interdimensional

1302
00:59:09,170 --> 00:59:07,559
goes through a different realm of space

1303
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:09,180
and time

1304
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:12,000
and we just have to trust that there was

1305
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:14,940
a reason why we go through the

1306
00:59:19,970 --> 00:59:16,559
experiences we go through we have to

1307
00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:19,980
realize that there is you know a creator

1308
00:59:25,490 --> 00:59:23,160
that does care about each one of us and

1309
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:25,500
wants the best for us but we start

1310
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:28,980
trying to be found better than than him

1311
00:59:35,329 --> 00:59:31,680
and become more powerful and and

1312
00:59:37,309 --> 00:59:35,339
harnessing you know the the promises of

1313
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,319
of these individuals that you you can

1314
00:59:40,730 --> 00:59:39,359
become better than the Creator it become

1315
00:59:43,609 --> 00:59:40,740
better than God

1316
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:43,619
and when that starts happening science

1317
00:59:50,510 --> 00:59:47,040
so-called uh Andrews the the what I what

1318
00:59:53,569 --> 00:59:50,520
I term to be the the

1319
00:59:55,549 --> 00:59:53,579
Dark Shadows realm uh and and there's

1320
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,559
nothing nothing good ever comes of that

1321
00:59:59,329 --> 00:59:57,119
ever

1322
01:00:01,130 --> 00:59:59,339
yes

1323
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,140
and I'm glad you mentioned that because

1324
01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:03,599
a lot as you said I mean maybe these

1325
01:00:08,089 --> 01:00:05,220
higher ups in the intelligence Community

1326
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,099
are absolutely right when they're saying

1327
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:10,799
when it comes to these black budget

1328
01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:13,440
projects looking into UFOs and

1329
01:00:17,690 --> 01:00:15,660
paranormal phenomena you know maybe

1330
01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:17,700
they're right in saying don't touch that

1331
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:20,040
stuff it's demonic because

1332
01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:22,920
you know as many have said in the past

1333
01:00:28,970 --> 01:00:25,980
and I've hinted on this before there are

1334
01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:28,980
very secret organizations Nick Redfern

1335
01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:31,380
mentioned it with the Collins Elite kind

1336
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,140
of backing up the same story that these

1337
01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:36,000
higher-ups in the intelligence Community

1338
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:38,819
are aware of something we aren't and

1339
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:42,960
they believe that these things function

1340
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:45,839
in a demonic fashion and you know there

1341
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,000
are secret organizations

1342
01:00:51,530 --> 01:00:49,680
um many people talk about skull and

1343
01:00:53,450 --> 01:00:51,540
bones for example you know that number

1344
01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:53,460
322 that they

1345
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,740
hold Almighty and you know that's

1346
01:01:00,890 --> 01:00:58,559
Genesis 3 22 you know then the Lord God

1347
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:00,900
said behold that man has become like one

1348
01:01:05,569 --> 01:01:03,359
of us in knowing good and evil now lest

1349
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:05,579
he reach out his hand and take also from

1350
01:01:11,089 --> 01:01:08,220
the Tree of Life and eat and live

1351
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:11,099
forever or at least you know that's what

1352
01:01:16,809 --> 01:01:13,020
you basically said that these

1353
01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:16,819
individuals believe that they can become

1354
01:01:23,569 --> 01:01:20,220
Gods uh or with a capital G or better

1355
01:01:26,990 --> 01:01:23,579
than and you know it makes me wonder you

1356
01:01:30,049 --> 01:01:27,000
know who's right and who's wrong in in

1357
01:01:32,030 --> 01:01:30,059
these intelligence communities you have

1358
01:01:34,569 --> 01:01:32,040
the one faction that wants to figure out

1359
01:01:37,010 --> 01:01:34,579
what's going on with UFOs and paranormal

1360
01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:37,020
events and then you have the other

1361
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:39,900
faction which is blocking the funding

1362
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:42,839
for these black budget projects because

1363
01:01:47,210 --> 01:01:44,579
they believe it's demonic it's a

1364
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:47,220
catch-22.

1365
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:49,440
well I could you know we had a podcast

1366
01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:53,040
to both before on the property I that I

1367
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:56,460
spearheaded back in 2008 what uh it's

1368
01:02:02,089 --> 01:01:59,280
called The Crow Creek property my Earth

1369
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:02,099
while uh partner that I brought in this

1370
01:02:07,370 --> 01:02:05,280
from Dumas Texas has now renamed it

1371
01:02:09,530 --> 01:02:07,380
blind frog Ranch and I will name any

1372
01:02:11,630 --> 01:02:09,540
names and I'm I'm in litigations I'm

1373
01:02:13,849 --> 01:02:11,640
going to be really careful what I say or

1374
01:02:16,370 --> 01:02:13,859
don't say but I just want to tell you

1375
01:02:19,849 --> 01:02:16,380
that that I would never even got

1376
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:19,859
involved in this project with this uh

1377
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:22,440
with no one what was there without the

1378
01:02:27,849 --> 01:02:24,900
aid of a gentleman in Washington DC who

1379
01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:27,859
really was my mentor in so many ways

1380
01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:31,380
because we have the same historical

1381
01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:33,720
roots and early Mormonism

1382
01:02:39,470 --> 01:02:36,839
and uh his name is he's deceased now so

1383
01:02:41,390 --> 01:02:39,480
I don't mind telling Dr Melvin Laney uh

1384
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:41,400
a very high clearance in the Pentagon

1385
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,160
extremely high level clearance

1386
01:02:49,250 --> 01:02:46,319
he told me from the outset

1387
01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:49,260
he says yeah I'm very I'm very very much

1388
01:02:53,390 --> 01:02:51,839
aware of what's on this property

1389
01:02:56,270 --> 01:02:53,400
true

1390
01:02:58,609 --> 01:02:56,280
are you sure you want to enter into this

1391
01:03:01,130 --> 01:02:58,619
realm because you will be going into

1392
01:03:04,250 --> 01:03:01,140
areas that the dark side wants to

1393
01:03:07,549 --> 01:03:04,260
control in the worst way also I said

1394
01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:07,559
well what do we you know why do we live

1395
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,319
doctor let me talk philosophy together

1396
01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:12,720
I said why do we even live we were not

1397
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:14,760
trying to do the best for Humanity if

1398
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:19,020
this is worthy of the the attention of

1399
01:03:22,730 --> 01:03:20,880
the dark side surely there's got to be a

1400
01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:22,740
really good thing for the positive

1401
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,819
science as far as technology is

1402
01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:25,680
concerned he says yes let me just tell

1403
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:28,200
you uh through satellite technology we

1404
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,880
know there's seven Caverns there we know

1405
01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:31,920
there's seven seven structures in there

1406
01:03:37,970 --> 01:03:34,920
but there is also things that could be a

1407
01:03:40,130 --> 01:03:37,980
two-edged sword that could the dark side

1408
01:03:42,890 --> 01:03:40,140
can get a hold of and Empower it's like

1409
01:03:44,089 --> 01:03:42,900
it's like what Travis Taylor is I mean

1410
01:03:45,890 --> 01:03:44,099
really

1411
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:45,900
if I were to sit down with Travis Taylor

1412
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:49,920
all over over biscuits and lunch okay I

1413
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:52,440
I would I just asked him I like him I

1414
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:53,760
think he's he's brilliant he's

1415
01:03:56,809 --> 01:03:54,960
articulate

1416
01:03:58,849 --> 01:03:56,819
and he's knowledgeable

1417
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,859
but sometimes I think maybe you know

1418
01:04:02,349 --> 01:04:01,200
we're opening the opening uh box called

1419
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:02,359
Pandora

1420
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:06,480
that could you know be harmful for the

1421
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:09,540
the world as a whole maybe you shouldn't

1422
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:11,400
be doing it even though you want to

1423
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:14,700
explore and understand these anomalies

1424
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:17,099
do you really trust the employer you're

1425
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:18,960
working for that he has the best

1426
01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:21,540
interests of the world at heart type of

1427
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:23,160
thing I would I would ask these

1428
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:24,359
questions

1429
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,700
because what do you do when you find out

1430
01:04:31,370 --> 01:04:28,559
what you find out

1431
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:31,380
are you able to put all of these creepy

1432
01:04:35,870 --> 01:04:33,599
crawlers back in the box

1433
01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:35,880
or are they loosed for good

1434
01:04:40,130 --> 01:04:37,740
this is the type of thing that that Dr

1435
01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:40,140
Laney and I had discussions on in for

1436
01:04:45,289 --> 01:04:41,880
wee hours of the morning

1437
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:45,299
he kept asking me do you trust the

1438
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:47,700
people you're associated with with this

1439
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:50,640
meaning meaning Dwayne Olinger and

1440
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,920
others I said I think so that I think

1441
01:04:56,990 --> 01:04:54,960
they're good Christian people

1442
01:04:59,450 --> 01:04:57,000
well let me tell you a year into the

1443
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,460
project we found out it wasn't

1444
01:05:02,930 --> 01:05:01,200
he said you couldn't possibly pick the

1445
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:02,940
worst partner did things illegally and

1446
01:05:07,309 --> 01:05:04,680
they're blasting Etc

1447
01:05:10,130 --> 01:05:07,319
that basically caused Dr Laney to pull

1448
01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:10,140
in his horns and say listen uh just tell

1449
01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:13,859
me they're on their own uh and I did and

1450
01:05:19,309 --> 01:05:15,380
they said well

1451
01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:19,319
who were you you know who we we haven't

1452
01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:21,480
covered you're too superstitious

1453
01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:24,000
and then of course I had the Don

1454
01:05:28,730 --> 01:05:27,000
nicholoff episode where nikolov called

1455
01:05:31,250 --> 01:05:28,740
me and said he's been contacted by the

1456
01:05:34,010 --> 01:05:31,260
Galactic Federation of the Galaxy of

1457
01:05:36,170 --> 01:05:34,020
feeder on right and that they're very

1458
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:36,180
interested in this property and making

1459
01:05:41,930 --> 01:05:39,200
sure it goes the right way

1460
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:41,940
well Dr Laney what do you think about

1461
01:05:49,430 --> 01:05:46,680
the Galactic Federation he said be very

1462
01:05:53,329 --> 01:05:49,440
careful whoa

1463
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:53,339
this is so so spooky

1464
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,140
I said what do you mean be very careful

1465
01:05:59,630 --> 01:05:57,839
he said I'm not confirming no denying

1466
01:06:03,349 --> 01:05:59,640
they exist

1467
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:03,359
but I'm telling you it's

1468
01:06:10,970 --> 01:06:06,960
not always what what it appears to be

1469
01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:10,980
be very careful allies it turned out

1470
01:06:17,690 --> 01:06:14,700
um Don nicholoff went behind the my back

1471
01:06:19,309 --> 01:06:17,700
went directly to the Wayne made all of

1472
01:06:20,990 --> 01:06:19,319
these in incursions on the property

1473
01:06:23,809 --> 01:06:21,000
unbeknownst to me

1474
01:06:25,789 --> 01:06:23,819
uh and all all because they were trying

1475
01:06:27,410 --> 01:06:25,799
to they were granted protection this guy

1476
01:06:29,870 --> 01:06:27,420
Jeremiah Davis

1477
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:29,880
who by the way checks out from Dr Laney

1478
01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:32,160
I had him looked into doc into Jeremiah

1479
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:35,520
Davis's uh QB and you know what

1480
01:06:43,569 --> 01:06:39,059
uh Jeremiah Davis is American hero he

1481
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:43,579
was was extremely uh skillful uh

1482
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:46,680
vietnam-era fighter pilot awarded many

1483
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:48,420
you know many

1484
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:50,880
uh distinguished crosses etc for his

1485
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:53,220
service he checked out but that doesn't

1486
01:06:56,690 --> 01:06:55,200
mean that he wasn't deceived by this

1487
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:56,700
Collective Federation in which he was

1488
01:07:01,789 --> 01:06:58,980
you know working with them

1489
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:01,799
uh Jeremiah Davis had talked to me says

1490
01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:03,960
many times he says they've they promised

1491
01:07:09,650 --> 01:07:06,119
me I will live uh they have technology

1492
01:07:12,170 --> 01:07:09,660
to keep me alive until you know my my

1493
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:12,180
DNA starts to unravel in 120 years and

1494
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:15,299
then I will go to to box we their their

1495
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:18,559
head planet and they're basically live

1496
01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:21,839
uh for as long as I would like to live

1497
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,539
that was his promise to me that he was

1498
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:26,160
telling me that he was given because of

1499
01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:27,240
his service

1500
01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:29,640
yet here we have Dwayne ullinger

1501
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:31,799
testifying in phenomicon and whatever

1502
01:07:37,010 --> 01:07:33,900
else speeches he gives

1503
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:37,020
that he was at the deathbed of Jeremiah

1504
01:07:40,569 --> 01:07:38,640
Davis making him a problem is to tell

1505
01:07:44,329 --> 01:07:40,579
the stories of glad to be Federation

1506
01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:44,339
uh Dwayne uh stopped

1507
01:07:49,390 --> 01:07:47,339
uh how can this be if Jeremiah Davis is

1508
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:49,400
dying

1509
01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,980
his promises were not fulfilled and the

1510
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:54,839
same was Don nicoloff Don Nicholas

1511
01:07:59,690 --> 01:07:56,339
called me

1512
01:08:02,329 --> 01:07:59,700
the night he died

1513
01:08:03,650 --> 01:08:02,339
and asked and begged me in tears for

1514
01:08:05,089 --> 01:08:03,660
forgiveness and I didn't know what he

1515
01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:05,099
was talking about

1516
01:08:09,410 --> 01:08:07,319
I said Don I don't have a clue what

1517
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:09,420
you're talking about but he's calling me

1518
01:08:13,849 --> 01:08:11,700
from Ohio says I'm your friend

1519
01:08:15,289 --> 01:08:13,859
I cannot get a flight this I'll get a

1520
01:08:16,729 --> 01:08:15,299
flight in the morning if you need me to

1521
01:08:18,769 --> 01:08:16,739
come out there and help you

1522
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:18,779
but he was telling the story about being

1523
01:08:22,370 --> 01:08:20,819
hit with directed energy weapons and

1524
01:08:23,630 --> 01:08:22,380
they were they were attacking him he

1525
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,640
didn't know where the protection

1526
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:25,920
promised by General General Jeremiah and

1527
01:08:30,289 --> 01:08:27,839
that Patrick Federation was to support

1528
01:08:32,809 --> 01:08:30,299
this evil attack against him

1529
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:32,819
and the next morning he's dead

1530
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:34,799
geez

1531
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:37,080
and this brings us back to the Faustian

1532
01:08:43,610 --> 01:08:40,080
bargain I mean people being promised

1533
01:08:47,090 --> 01:08:43,620
eternal life and uh you know it just

1534
01:08:48,890 --> 01:08:47,100
again brings us to those who are willing

1535
01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:48,900
to give anything for power

1536
01:08:56,749 --> 01:08:51,960
and how it doesn't always work out so

1537
01:08:59,689 --> 01:08:56,759
hot at least not as promised

1538
01:09:02,689 --> 01:08:59,699
exactly and I would just say do you make

1539
01:09:06,349 --> 01:09:02,699
Deborah again you know the

1540
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:06,359
this is not about publicity Mr Olinger

1541
01:09:12,530 --> 01:09:10,560
is not about uh telling a story of of

1542
01:09:14,329 --> 01:09:12,540
spaceships in the night

1543
01:09:15,530 --> 01:09:14,339
it's going far beyond that it's about

1544
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:15,540
honor

1545
01:09:20,769 --> 01:09:18,660
and integrity and a promise made to a

1546
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:20,779
friend

1547
01:09:27,650 --> 01:09:24,960
okay and you can't money can't buy that

1548
01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:27,660
uh you know the truth Mr Olinger I know

1549
01:09:31,309 --> 01:09:28,980
the truth

1550
01:09:33,530 --> 01:09:31,319
uh I don't care if the judge knows the

1551
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,540
truth frankly because this is this has

1552
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:35,759
gone gotten too crazy what all he's

1553
01:09:41,150 --> 01:09:38,460
doing about all these tours and all of

1554
01:09:44,269 --> 01:09:41,160
this nonsense you know Finding Priceless

1555
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:44,279
I mean uh Indian artifacts in the form

1556
01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:47,100
of trade beats I mean being this type of

1557
01:09:51,769 --> 01:09:49,560
thing is is commercialization and it's

1558
01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:51,779
my goodness what are what are the youth

1559
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:53,580
Elders thinking about this

1560
01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:56,640
so there's even care

1561
01:10:00,350 --> 01:09:58,020
you know

1562
01:10:03,050 --> 01:10:00,360
this is the sacred side to these Native

1563
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:03,060
Americans for a very important reason

1564
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:04,860
and not to be commercialized on

1565
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:07,080
Discovery Channel for a money for a

1566
01:10:10,430 --> 01:10:09,360
money price tag a mess of pottage if you

1567
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,440
will

1568
01:10:16,130 --> 01:10:12,719
that is my two that's that's my

1569
01:10:18,250 --> 01:10:16,140
testimony on it they wanted to depose me

1570
01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:18,260
a lot more but you know

1571
01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:20,580
I think they're afraid of what what I'm

1572
01:10:24,890 --> 01:10:22,440
going to tell them

1573
01:10:26,570 --> 01:10:24,900
fine to pose me for 20 hours I'll tell

1574
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:26,580
you the whole story and I'll document

1575
01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:30,560
every every single sentence of it

1576
01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:35,400
and I'm glad you said story because

1577
01:10:40,430 --> 01:10:37,620
um I also uh

1578
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,440
wanted to uh talk after we're done

1579
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,960
recording about why

1580
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:45,120
um why I received that text and what

1581
01:10:51,470 --> 01:10:48,060
what's going on currently uh a similar

1582
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:51,480
situation possibly but um you said story

1583
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,540
which made me think of the story behind

1584
01:11:00,910 --> 01:10:57,360
the story and I've mentioned to the

1585
01:11:04,130 --> 01:11:00,920
listeners uh Mother Earth minerals at me

1586
01:11:06,649 --> 01:11:04,140
minerals.com and could you also tell

1587
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,659
listeners where they can catch the story

1588
01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:09,600
behind the story and anything else that

1589
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:11,580
you wanted to uh

1590
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,920
tell our listeners

1591
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:16,080
well yes Ryan thank you uh I've been

1592
01:11:19,790 --> 01:11:18,239
doing radio broadcasting for well over

1593
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:19,800
30 years actually

1594
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:23,760
the story behind the story is is my the

1595
01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:25,560
name of my broadcast

1596
01:11:31,070 --> 01:11:28,199
it's currently being simulcast you can

1597
01:11:34,130 --> 01:11:31,080
even tune in uh

1598
01:11:36,350 --> 01:11:34,140
on Friday nights it's eight o'clock to

1599
01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:36,360
10 p.m two hours eight to ten PM

1600
01:11:43,310 --> 01:11:39,000
Mountain Standard Time on Revolution

1601
01:11:44,770 --> 01:11:43,320
Radio that's uh freedomslips.com triple

1602
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,780
W

1603
01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:47,280
freedomslips.com Studio B from eight to

1604
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:48,179
ten

1605
01:11:54,590 --> 01:11:51,659
p.m is where we were parked we simulcast

1606
01:11:58,729 --> 01:11:54,600
with the Goldwater Network James Watkins

1607
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:58,739
and and and others um I mean Valley

1608
01:12:06,649 --> 01:12:04,070
uh it's quite amazing what they're doing

1609
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:06,659
out of Manila in the Philippines uh

1610
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:08,760
broadcasting into you know radio radio

1611
01:12:19,070 --> 01:12:15,169
South Pacific Islands Radio free uh

1612
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:19,080
Australia and and uh Etc it's amazing

1613
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:20,760
how how

1614
01:12:25,729 --> 01:12:24,420
the the the information curtain has been

1615
01:12:28,189 --> 01:12:25,739
drawn it's supposed to be living in a

1616
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:28,199
free and open Society no no

1617
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:31,679
uh the the the pot the broadcast we do

1618
01:12:36,649 --> 01:12:34,560
there are monitored and and scrambled so

1619
01:12:40,250 --> 01:12:36,659
often it's not even funny

1620
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,260
mm-hmm oh well it's a great show and I

1621
01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:42,239
you know it's been a great conversation

1622
01:12:47,090 --> 01:12:44,360
I can't thank you enough for coming on

1623
01:12:49,790 --> 01:12:47,100
and uh hopefully what we will discuss

1624
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:49,800
after this recording uh will someday be

1625
01:12:54,110 --> 01:12:51,600
able to talk about that publicly but

1626
01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:54,120
it's a kind of a similar scenario where

1627
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:55,020
these

1628
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,920
funding in ways that are well not quite

1629
01:13:06,410 --> 01:13:03,600
right and we'll have to get into that

1630
01:13:09,530 --> 01:13:06,420
another time but thank you so much Dr

1631
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:09,540
Tru Ott thanks for having me uh be well

1632
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:11,460
and be safe Ryan

1633
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:15,360
wow so much information such a great

1634
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:18,360
episode touched on so many things that

1635
01:13:27,610 --> 01:13:24,719
are not only scary but true and this is

1636
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,620
very common in certain areas

1637
01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:29,760
geographically in the U in a basin of

1638
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,800
Utah there's a long history of Legend

1639
01:13:36,050 --> 01:13:33,120
and lore

1640
01:13:38,450 --> 01:13:36,060
and how exactly this is mixing in with

1641
01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:38,460
more modern technology

1642
01:13:43,729 --> 01:13:41,219
is beyond many of us

1643
01:13:46,430 --> 01:13:43,739
are these projects

1644
01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:46,440
that are looking into the phenomena such

1645
01:13:51,290 --> 01:13:49,800
as UFOs and the Paranormal are they in

1646
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:51,300
fact opening

1647
01:13:58,430 --> 01:13:55,440
Pandora's Box are these projects

1648
01:14:02,570 --> 01:13:58,440
poking the bear or poking The Hornet's

1649
01:14:05,810 --> 01:14:02,580
Nest and what comes out is uh not going

1650
01:14:07,850 --> 01:14:05,820
to be good these are all unknowns why is

1651
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,860
it that a portion of the intelligence

1652
01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:09,120
community

1653
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:13,020
is in fact believing that

1654
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:16,020
these are adversarial possibly demonic

1655
01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:17,760
entities

1656
01:14:21,410 --> 01:14:19,860
or angelic

1657
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:21,420
in the

1658
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,239
video that is of the lunch that Dr

1659
01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:26,520
Travis Taylor had with members of the

1660
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:27,840
phenomicon

1661
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,960
that paid 75 dollars ahead to sit down

1662
01:14:37,490 --> 01:14:33,840
and listen to Dr Travis Taylor answer

1663
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:37,500
their questions in that video

1664
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:39,840
there is uh

1665
01:14:46,669 --> 01:14:43,320
the speculation that these groups in the

1666
01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:46,679
government exist and that they are

1667
01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:49,500
spoken of in other places such as

1668
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:53,820
books uh Ray Boucher mentioned them and

1669
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:56,640
called them the Collins Elite in a book

1670
01:15:02,390 --> 01:14:58,800
by Nick Redfern

1671
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,400
the Collins Elite therefore believe

1672
01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:05,040
that these things are demonic

1673
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:07,620
here is a snippet from Travis Taylor's

1674
01:15:21,950 --> 01:15:19,250
and Angels y'all need to stay away from

1675
01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:21,960
this is very interesting that this is

1676
01:15:25,850 --> 01:15:23,460
finally out in the Limelight because

1677
01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:25,860
I've heard this for years and here's a

1678
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:33,050
[Music]

1679
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,280
it was really odd I know I had the same

1680
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:37,440
it's the same odd thing

1681
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,840
so my question is of course why would

1682
01:15:45,050 --> 01:15:42,480
these groups try to keep funding from

1683
01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:45,060
these black budget and other projects

1684
01:15:50,209 --> 01:15:48,060
that are investigating UFOs and the

1685
01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:50,219
Paranormal unless there was a real

1686
01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:52,140
danger there I don't know

1687
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:55,560
is it possible that these things may be

1688
01:15:59,630 --> 01:15:58,560
something that should not be poked and

1689
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:59,640
prodded

1690
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:02,400
and that Pandora's Box could be opened

1691
01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:05,640
by the very insistent nature of trying

1692
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:09,420
to find out for curiosity's sake what is

1693
01:16:18,050 --> 01:16:15,050
I for a fact believe

1694
01:16:20,330 --> 01:16:18,060
in my conversations I've had with people

1695
01:16:23,649 --> 01:16:20,340
with top secret clearances one in

1696
01:16:27,070 --> 01:16:23,659
particular from Maryland

1697
01:16:29,169 --> 01:16:27,080
he mentioned that there are some very

1698
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:29,179
bad bad

1699
01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:31,520
entities out there

1700
01:16:36,350 --> 01:16:34,020
and that

1701
01:16:39,950 --> 01:16:36,360
the intelligence Community has to do

1702
01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:43,850
to protect not only itself but also

1703
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,560
others from these entities

1704
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:48,480
that can be

1705
01:16:54,130 --> 01:16:50,280
pretty much put through whatever filter

1706
01:16:56,209 --> 01:16:54,140
you want and analyzed and probably

1707
01:16:58,490 --> 01:16:56,219
construed in a bunch of different ways

1708
01:17:01,010 --> 01:16:58,500
but that's what I was told

1709
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,020
amazing the conversations we have when

1710
01:17:05,870 --> 01:17:02,880
we can't really know what we're talking

1711
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:05,880
about but thanks so much for uh

1712
01:17:10,010 --> 01:17:08,400
listening in until next time keep your

1713
01:17:12,890 --> 01:17:10,020
eyes to the skies

1714
01:17:20,820 --> 01:17:12,900
feet on the ground but don't forget to

1715
01:17:23,390 --> 01:17:21,870
[Applause]

1716
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:23,400
[Music]

1717
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:24,840
thank you